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Post by els on Mar 17, 2011 18:35:41 GMT -5
Thanks, Mermon, that is so sweet of you to say, I appreciate it a lot! <3 It was indeed not easy, I guess you are right, I've got a very strong will Luckily I got a lot of support from my parents, my brother, my best friend Joyce and my collegues at school You are so right, it is very hard -almost really impossible - to cure if someone keeps on being in the difficult situation that causes the depression. In my case, the cause was a very difficult relationship. After I finally -wisely- ended it, with support from my loved ones, I slowly started to heal. I am now in a very loving relationship I count my blessings every day, I am a very lucky and happy girl I really hope that that lady you know, gets the chance to heal and will get through! I wish her *much courage!*
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Post by eausavage on Mar 17, 2011 18:55:56 GMT -5
To me there was no misunderstanding, Maria, I think you've explained yourself very good indeed and I agree with most of the things you've said I have the same feeling as you do about LOAD: it's a very good movie, but sometimes a bit unbalanced, and it's a pity really, because imo, with a few adjustments (to make sure the movie would get more balance), it could've been a really excellent movie I agree with you, the movie could be detailed in some parts, and overfly on othrers a bit off IMO, but still a good movie, like definitely! ;D I always try to be as midful as possible while i'm watching a movie, sometimes my opinion is instinctive, but then, after a while i try to refined thinking about deatils, i love details... Thank you Els!I think respect different taste then yours is important, sometimes i went mad, as i'm too much instinctive by nature, but i try always to be as fair as possible.... I have my list adn Jarhead is on the top, actually on lower places there's Bubble Boy, Higthway, Moonlight Mile, maybe it's me i don't have enought quality, or fine taste to understad those movies.... I'll surely promise to update the list when i'll going to see Sorce Code... Thanks so much for the Support Els, -sei davvero dolcissima a preoccuparti di me- Luckly it's not about me, but a realtive very close to me have depression, sometimes it's better, sometimes it's worser, it's painful, and some day, i can tell that honestly you curse your own life.... I'm glad you've been able to avoind those medicines, it's you can do less, i'm very very proud of you!<3
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Post by eausavage on Mar 17, 2011 19:00:59 GMT -5
eausavage - I had no doubts, that we discussed about you not liking Josh while liking the movie, but maybe not unconditionally. Surely i put put a lot of things, and maybe some personal experience buld my opinion differently then yours, but i guess it's fine to have different opnion, and for what it worth it try to be as honest and objectve as possible, sometimes we're not able to do at 100%, but personally i try my best always...
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Post by mermon on Mar 17, 2011 19:25:49 GMT -5
els - - oh, thx God she's much better now, though she still takes pills, but she doesn't have any signs of depression from 2 years maybe. I think I helped her a bit. Her husband was a toxic man, criticizing her a lot, flirting with other women. he was always walking many steps ahead of her with a dog and she was behind him with heavy shopping trolley, cause he has a sick heart, he was saying, he couldn't carry anything. he didn't allow her to buy things, he was the one to choose everything for her, keeping and saving money etc. She had no one to complain to. And one day she broke her arm very badly and she started to come to me to exercise her arm and body and opened up to me, was crying, telling the stories of their life, she got support from me, started to have different life then only her husband company. She was talking with other people, joking, etc She got some confidence, started to fight with her husband instead of crying. She has changed and ... he has changed because of her changing. And now he is quite nice husband for her, finally, taking care, joking, hugging her. Despite that all, she still take pills for depression maybe from fear of any regress. Sorry for that off topic, but that is very positive story. If it's something sad, bad in our life we have to change it first, then get support and change ourself, then the world around us will change too. Els - I'm happy for you that you have such a good relationship. To love and being loved is the best medicine!
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Post by mermon on Mar 17, 2011 19:28:32 GMT -5
eausavage - - absolutely! It's a starting point for discussion/conversation.
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Post by eausavage on Mar 17, 2011 19:55:24 GMT -5
i second that on second hand,as otherwise we're going to have very short and boering debating! ;D
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Post by Sasha4Jake on Mar 18, 2011 3:41:30 GMT -5
Wow, Els, that's quite something to fight depression like that. Congrats!
I have a friend with serious depression and she refused to take any medication. She got to the edge of being suicidal and her husband and her 4 kids were very scared and frightend. Luckily she had a very good doctor and he told her to view depression like diabetes. Nobody would ever tell a diabetes patient: "You are such a sissy, straighten up and digest your sugur like the rest of us." yet people get ranted for taking depression meds all the time. People with diabetes don't produce insulin and people with depression don't produce enough neuro chemicals. Some diabetes patients can regulate it by sensitive diet and others can't. Some get over depression with changing their life and others won't. But that doesn't make you a weak person, just like a diabetes patient is not weak.
That thought has really helped her and she is feeling much better now. I kept that thought in mind and try to view people with depression or other mental illnesses like that now.
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Post by els on Mar 18, 2011 6:37:01 GMT -5
Maria, I really hope your close relative will feel better soon! *courage!* Having a depression is terrible, not only for the one who has it, but also for people close to the person with depression Thanks for your sweet compliment, Maria, I appreciate it a lot! Don't worry about being a bit OT, Mermon I'm so happy you told that story, I'm very happy that it turned out so positive, it gives hope, and that is so very important! Thanks that's so sweet of you to say, Mermon! Indeed it is! <3 Thanks Sasha, that's so sweet of you to say! *Thanks so much for all your sweet words, girls, I'm really very moved!* <3 <3 <3 !!! Wow that's very scary indeed! I've had suicide thoughts too, for about a week (which is not that long, given that my depression lasted 3 years) but luckily I was aware of that myself and that week I spoke a lot with my best friend and she could make me see that I musn't think like that and that there are people who love me and support me, always You've explained it very well, Sasha, about depression being a disease and not just something in "your mind". I felt like a weak person too, and especially ashamed, I never thought that could happen to me, having a depression... But like you said, it's "just" a chemical thing (depressed people don't produce enough neuro chemicals); it is also hereditary (my dad, my mom and my grandmother all have had a depression at one point in their lives), some people are just more sensitive to it, I mean more sensitive to getting a depression or not... I'm so glad she had such a good doctor, that's very important! I'm so happy she's feeling better now! I had a very good doctor and therapist too It feels good to read your thoughts about depression, Sasha, thanks for being so understanding and respectful about it!
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Post by Sasha4Jake on Mar 18, 2011 9:51:02 GMT -5
It feels good to read your thoughts about depression, Sasha, thanks for being so understanding and respectful about it! You're welcome. So many people suffer from depression nowadays. I guess the pressure society puts on people to function makes it difficult for people. A hundred years ago there might have been just as many people prone to depression but live's pace was slower as so they could adjust to it. Now we hardly have the time to take care of ourselves and so a lot of these lingering depressiong go full blown.
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Post by els on Mar 18, 2011 10:26:46 GMT -5
I agree!
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Post by eausavage on Mar 18, 2011 11:16:56 GMT -5
I agree as well Sasha, sometimes it's pressure society, maybe some exptetions about ourself, meybe ourselves, pretend too much, and we are critical with ourselves, so many things.... Saldy i know what it mean trying suicide, well i was the one that prevented this relative to commit suicide, it was horrible, sometimes i'm exausted, it's no easy at all....but i'm used to handle....you have to handle in someway....thanks for the support.
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Post by els on Mar 18, 2011 13:52:42 GMT -5
Indeed... I was a perfectionist and that sure didn't help... Now I've learned to be a bit less harsh (strict) on myself and that's very good. Maria, that's so good that you've been able to prevent your relative from committing suicide, I know from experience that it's scary and very difficult to deal with (I knew a girl at secondary school who wanted to commit suicide, I stopped her too, I was her only friend, it was a sad situation really ) *abbraccio forte!* <3
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Post by eausavage on Mar 18, 2011 17:45:56 GMT -5
thanks so much really, it was terrible, happened on terrance, wanted to throw under......
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Post by Sasha4Jake on Mar 19, 2011 14:36:44 GMT -5
Oh my, that sounds terrible. Good you knew how to handle the situations, Els and Maria!
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Post by eausavage on Mar 20, 2011 19:00:15 GMT -5
thanks so much for the suport Sasha, you know what? It's amazing been able to openly speacks about those things, it was such easy to confide to you all, i know now after several hard situatios, that i can handle anything!
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