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Post by ultraviolet on Jul 12, 2011 10:46:23 GMT -5
Thanks, as always, Stephanie! I couldn't believe you got the caps done last night/early this AM, too! A couple of other links, in case Stephanie's are overloaded: Five clips on youtube or the whole episode.
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Post by eausavage on Jul 12, 2011 11:05:20 GMT -5
Thank you for sharing, and thanks so much to Stephani for the works done!
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Post by eausavage on Jul 12, 2011 12:34:16 GMT -5
I've already seen all the parts, cannot resists, and i'm totally speachless, beside than the scene when Gyllenhaal ate a worm, i've never done that, that impressed me negatively, i enjoy it so much, i loved how Gyllenhaal handle the danger, faced his fears and tested himself, pushing his boudaries, the rope scene is impressive, Gyllenhaal is amazing, i can feel his tension, how he've kept focused in slipping onto the rope, checking his breathing, holding his fears, and one moment after done it, he've smiled back again, he was such sweet, his smile was such tense and naive, he was such proud of himself! Gyllenhaal touched me also in the snow shelter when he confessed to had carryied with him some chocolate.... And he didn't lose his sense of humor during the whole experience, such funny when he and Grylls diging the shelter in the snow, definitely a truly deal, i enjoy it! The scene of dredging the river in an odd subtle way was hot to me LOL WOW Mr Gyllenhaal thanks for done something like that, you're awesome!
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Post by trekfan on Jul 12, 2011 15:54:02 GMT -5
I wish I were stuck in a snow shelter, just him and me and having to find a way to keep warm
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Post by Sasha4Jake on Jul 12, 2011 16:33:30 GMT -5
First of all - A HUGE THANK YOU, Stephanie for posting the episode so quickly!
Secondly - I cannot say how proud I am of Jake! Way to go! It must have taken so extreme courage to pull through with that. And I'd like to thank Bear for managing to throw in a topless scene as well. The man's got a sense of getting the most out of any given circumstance, I guess.
That rope scene was actually more scary seeing it in the show than during the promo. I can't believe Jake put himself into that kind of danger. It seems like there was no security at all!
I do have two questions though (and that is not trying to minimise anything Jake did for this show): 1. Do you think Jake and Bear slept in that snow cave all night? Jake does look kind of scruffy the next morning. But the camera men must have slept somewhere too. I guess they had a thermo tent or something like that with them. I wouldn't mind at all if Jake and Bear warmed up there, but do you think they did?
2. Just wondering? How did the camera team get over that canyon with the rope? Any ideas?
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Post by atalley on Jul 12, 2011 18:05:36 GMT -5
Thank you so much Stephanie!! I was not able to watch it last night & just finished it a few minutes ago. Jake, you are AMAZING!! It's cause for great admiration! Facing his fears like that; NO WAY could I do any of it. Makes him even HOTTER!! I'm absolutely sure that they slept in the snow cave. Not sure how they kept going w/o food for that long. I would think that you would be so weak. That crossing on the rope was unbelievable...the fear was real, for sure. I don't think that there was a lot of safety just having that 1 rope in case he fell.
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Post by eausavage on Jul 12, 2011 18:07:15 GMT -5
I wish I were stuck in a snow shelter, just him and me and having to find a way to keep warm LOL i guess you're right, he he same though dear! And i love how Gyllenhaal and Grylls jocking and make some great irony while they digging the snow shelter ;D First of all - A HUGE THANK YOU, Stephanie for posting the episode so quickly! Secondly - I cannot say how proud I am of Jake! Way to go! It must have taken so extreme courage to pull through with that. And I'd like to thank Bear for managing to throw in a topless scene as well. The man's got a sense of getting the most out of any given circumstance, I guess. That rope scene was actually more scary seeing it in the show than during the promo. I can't believe Jake put himself into that kind of danger. It seems like there was no security at all! I do have two questions though (and that is not trying to minimise anything Jake did for this show): 1. Do you think Jake and Bear slept in that snow cave all night? Jake does look kind of scruffy the next morning. But the camera men must have slept somewhere too. I guess they had a thermo tent or something like that with them. I wouldn't mind at all if Jake and Bear warmed up there, but do you think they did? 2. Just wondering? How did the camera team get over that canyon with the rope? Any ideas? Well i guess it's not just you Sasha but everyone that is really really impressed by Gyllenhaal for testing himslef such bravely-I don't dare to said that i'm proud of him, as i don't know Gyllenhaal, personally, but you know me- ;D I think that definitely both sleeping in the snow shelter, the camera simply could be night vison small camera that someone left to Grylls before that the shelter was closed, as the day after if you noticed both "escape" from the shelter digging a bit of snow. I don't know about a possibly thermo tent, but i don't think they have something like that, basing on how both shaking while they light the candle inside the shelter. So definitely all was real in my pov. I find that ther rope scene was fine, surely there was some security rope beside the one that holding Gyllenhaal to Grylls,. Surely the camera team moved with something fastly, or there was another way beside the rope to get overe the canyon, but as it's understandeble for the show Grylls and Gyllenhaal should get over it with the rope. ;D
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Post by evie on Jul 12, 2011 19:05:04 GMT -5
First of all - A HUGE THANK YOU, Stephanie for posting the episode so quickly! Secondly - I cannot say how proud I am of Jake! Way to go! It must have taken so extreme courage to pull through with that. And I'd like to thank Bear for managing to throw in a topless scene as well. The man's got a sense of getting the most out of any given circumstance, I guess. That rope scene was actually more scary seeing it in the show than during the promo. I can't believe Jake put himself into that kind of danger. It seems like there was no security at all! I do have two questions though (and that is not trying to minimise anything Jake did for this show): 1. Do you think Jake and Bear slept in that snow cave all night? Jake does look kind of scruffy the next morning. But the camera men must have slept somewhere too. I guess they had a thermo tent or something like that with them. I wouldn't mind at all if Jake and Bear warmed up there, but do you think they did? 2. Just wondering? How did the camera team get over that canyon with the rope? Any ideas? Mrs. JG: I had these same questions myself, but no answers, just thoughts. No. 1: Since there was obviously a camera team with Bear and Jake, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the whole party stayed in tents after filming the sequence in the snow cave. The point of the program is to show survival techniques, but not necessarily to put everyone through them all the way. The notice that appears about halfway through the program states that means were in place to assure everyone's safety and carry out a rescue if needed. We never saw the camera crew and their equipment--they may have been a sizable group, and they were experiencing the same weather and traveling conditions as Grylls and Gylls. No. 2: Bear mentions in his narrative there's a long way around to cross the gorge without going on the rope. The crew may have taken that. It's also possible the helicopter came and carried the camera equipment and operators to the opposite side. In regard to Jake and this crossing: it's clear he does it, but I suspect there was some pretraining involved, at a gym or club somewhere. I don't think you just flop down on your belly and drag yourself on a rope across a frighteningly deep gorge without practicing the technique, especially if you're going to face the camera and make comments about how you feel while doing it! Jake performs this very dangerous maneuver skillfully, but IMO it would be madness to try it without preparation. For dramatic effect, Bear makes it seem he's teaching Jake how to do it on the spot. I was a bit skeptical of that. Also, I felt that the tech crews had to make sure the rope/cable was secure on both sides, or Jake and Bear himself would never have dared to try this. And I was curious as to whether the men were hooked onto the rope somehow, at their chest, to hold them in position--some sort of pulley wheel that moved with them. I didn't understand the usefulness of that thin black line that Bear had on Jake as he crossed. It didn't look as if it could hold a man's weight if he fell off the rope. But I know nothing about mountaineering; maybe that's exactly the safety line climbers rely on. Like you, I don't mean to take anything away from Jake. This was a grueling adventure. The crossing of the stream clearly wasn't faked, and I thought the two men were in great peril as they exposed their flesh to the wet and freezing temperatures. I did wonder whether they changed their wet pants and boots too, or were they wearing waterproof gear? I do hope they didn't have to continue on with wet legs and feet. That could have brought on frostbite. The part with the worm creeped me out, and I have to say I have mixed feelings about watching Jake pee in the snow.
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Post by atalley on Jul 12, 2011 19:40:45 GMT -5
At the very beginning of the adventure, someone on the team asked Jake "what did you do to train for this?"...he replied "NOTHING". I think that he's that crazy when it comes to facing his fears. The worm was nothing compared to the rotting sheep. I don't think the camera crew could've helped w/ all the equipment that they were carrying; not sure exactly how the black rope would've worked if he needed it. It reminded me of the men & women who climb Mt. Everest.
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Post by jfaulkin on Jul 12, 2011 21:31:43 GMT -5
Wow..there is so much that has already been said...
I agree with some of you that Jake DID do some traing...I know he train alot for his movies roles, I don't see why he wouldn't for this show. As for sleeping in the snow, I could see them doing that and the camera crew staying in tents.
I am happy that Jake was trilled when he crossed the rope and faced his fear of hights...The look on his face was wonderful.
I also enjoined the water seen. They both looked like they were wearing water proof pants and boots...must have helped alot.
I also believed that Bear crew went and scouted the site LONG before they showed up and helped them prepare that way.
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Post by monicabbm on Jul 12, 2011 22:57:58 GMT -5
Jake is an athlete. He practices various types of sports, so I think he was not lying when he said he did nothing for this episode. He has a preparation because of his routine.
Of course, some situations are created by the program team, but crossing a rope can still be dangerous. Something could have gone wrong. Even in movies, I read about accidents that occur with stunts that are prepared for danger.
I would not have done this or would have been afraid, even if it was safe.
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Post by Sasha4Jake on Jul 13, 2011 2:02:45 GMT -5
I agree with Monica, Jake is quite fit and I believe him when he says he hasn't done anything special for this show. The rope climbing tecnique seems a bit tricky, but Jake seems to have a talent for anything athletic, so I'm not sure if he knew about that before hand. Also his fear of hights and being scared about the crossing seemed real to me, not like he knew what was coming. Of course Jake is a brilliant actor, so we never know.
I second what you say about even the best prepared stunts can go wrong, so definately it was dangerous, no matter if and how much Jake knew about it or prepared. It still takes a lot of courage to do that, I wouldn't have been able to do it, even if I wore a safty harness, because I'm dead scared of hights like that. I couldn't even look over the railing on Empire State Building.
Good thought Jessica about Bear and his crew having prepared before hand.
@evie: the way I understood, the rope was supposed to allow Bear to help Jake out by pulling him toward him, in case he got tired and couldn't make it all the way on his own. I am not sure it was a safty precausion.
Like I said, even if some of it was "staged" for Jake to get the most out of those two days, it still took a men's man to go through with it. Very, very cool!
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Post by evie on Jul 13, 2011 9:41:46 GMT -5
I agree with Monica, Jake is quite fit and I believe him when he says he hasn't done anything special for this show. The rope climbing tecnique seems a bit tricky, but Jake seems to have a talent for anything athletic, so I'm not sure if he knew about that before hand. Also his fear of hights and being scared about the crossing seemed real to me, not like he knew what was coming. Of course Jake is a brilliant actor, so we never know. I second what you say about even the best prepared stunts can go wrong, so definately it was dangerous, no matter if and how much Jake knew about it or prepared. It still takes a lot of courage to do that, I wouldn't have been able to do it, even if I wore a safty harness, because I'm dead scared of hights like that. I couldn't even look over the railing on Empire State Building. Good thought Jessica about Bear and his crew having prepared before hand. @ evie: the way I understood, the rope was supposed to allow Bear to help Jake out by pulling him toward him, in case he got tired and couldn't make it all the way on his own. I am not sure it was a safty precausion. Like I said, even if some of it was "staged" for Jake to get the most out of those two days, it still took a men's man to go through with it. Very, very cool! Absolutely--Jake is a natural athlete who keeps himself in superb condition, so that he's ready for any challenge. It may be that at an earlier time, long before the Icelandic expedition, he had training and experience in crawling a rope like the one in the episode. I find that stunt to be seriously dangerous. Yes, things go wrong in movies, even with the most detailed preparation and using professional stunt people. Many years ago a terrible tragedy occurred on an an American film set. An adult actor and two children were killed in a stunt involving a helicopter. I keep thinking about that rope trick. How did they keep their balance? They had backpacks on, which could have slipped, or tipped them over. What if a wind gust had come up? If the wind can knock you off your feet, it can blow you off a rope. I believe Jake's nervousness and his admitted fear of heights--and his pride in conquering them--were real. Would that black line that Bear held been enough to save Jake if he slipped off the rope? I'll bet Jake had to sign a release absolving Bear and the film company of any liability. That location had to have been scouted well beforehand. I noted that the shot of the deep gorge was from overhead. Wouldn't the camera operator have been taking that from the helicopter? Bear knew exactly where he was going and what the hazards were. I've never seen his show before. Maybe he has trekked this area a number of times. He's a strong, knowledgeable outdoorsman. I love Jake for keeping up with Bear in a dangerous, very scary situation, and doing it with good humor and no shirking. Not everyone could, that's for sure.
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Post by book on Jul 13, 2011 9:53:54 GMT -5
i was so proud of jake he had a great time and was up for anything not afraid to try anything new new and yes im sure jake had to sign something before absolving bear if any thing happened to him i know that bear had mentioned on a show he was on that jakes people i guess were very concerned about jake doing this who can blame them. Bear said he had to assure them he wouldint let anything happen to jake he had to reassure maggie too
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Post by sweetcolumbine on Jul 13, 2011 10:03:53 GMT -5
Thanks Steph this was really great.
I'm so proud of Jake and particularly enjoyed the duo topless river crossing!
I hike and climb myself and the bit after he managed the scary rope crossing reminded me of the sense of achievement you get in the outdoors.
Well done!
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