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Post by Sasha4Jake on Mar 2, 2011 13:58:10 GMT -5
I thought Gemma worked as Tamina, but that was before I saw Jake and Annie together. NOW I know what chemistry looks like. When they announced Ryan Reynolds sexiest man alive last year, I was like "What? Jake and Annie have more chemistry between them just pretending to be in love than Ryan and Scarlett actually being married"! But since they got a divorce not much later, I know why!
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Post by mermon on Mar 2, 2011 18:24:52 GMT -5
Hm, I think Gemma and Jake were great together - in different way that Anne and Jake. During POP they were not actually a couple, one kiss only, no sex. By one half of the movie Tamina wanted to kill Dastan. But it was a lot of sparkles and I can easily imagine how great it could be between them. That's one of the reasons I want a sequel so much. It's difficult to compare those two relationships, cause they were on completely different level and in such a distant times. Can you imagine princess Tamina starting her relationship with Dastan from sex? - Impossible! Maybe Dastan would say - Difficult, not impossible. ;D
I like very much what Jerry Brookheimer did to this film, I like Mike Newell as a director and I just adore Dastan and the whole movie, but I think, I've said it already. ;D
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Post by eausavage on Mar 2, 2011 18:41:55 GMT -5
Gemma Arterton is a younger talented british actress, in Clash of Tiatais was impressive, but in all her latest performance didn't impresse me much, M twist sister blame her character, it wsen't such god, full of feminine stereotypies, quite irritating, so no wonder that was no chemistry beteween her and Gyllenhaal, but i don't see all that problem, i mean is not necessary to have a chemistry in POP as it was a sort of corny story, Dastan and Tamira starts hating each other, and then ends by loving each other, the movie is quite fast, seems that Dastan never take any breath, but as POP is a entertainment/family movie i guess it's normal. To me it wasen't a bad movie, just a movie, i'm not the kind that blame producers just for something that isn't realted to this movie only. I guess that screenplay wasn't good enought, but i' still hoping for a sequela as well, i guess Gyllenhaal deserve it for all the affort tht put in performng Dastan character.
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Post by els on Mar 2, 2011 19:20:35 GMT -5
I really liked her in "The Disappearance of Alice Creed", strong and believable performance imo Very good movie! I feel the same way about it, you can't compare LOAD to PoP imo, totally different movies, totally different character. For an entertainment movie like PoP, and given Tamira's character, I thought it was alright. I liked PoP more than I expected I would, it was quite entertaining imo
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Post by Sasha4Jake on Mar 3, 2011 3:50:28 GMT -5
Well, everyone knows that PoP and LAOD are my alltime favourites, so you won't catch me saying anything negative about either movie.
If anyone doesn't like Tamina, it has to be the fault of the script, Gemma portrayed her as well as possible given the script she had to act to. And I didn't mind that she was kind of stereotype. The whole movie is, so it fits like a pea in a pod!
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Post by eausavage on Mar 3, 2011 11:18:55 GMT -5
Defenitely about Tamira character we share the sme thoughts, as POP isn't at the top of my prefrence you know that 'm quite objectie when i talk about this movie, personally if soemthing didn't work is the screenplay that was not well done, as the cats done a very good job.
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Post by Sasha4Jake on Mar 3, 2011 11:59:04 GMT -5
you know that 'm quite objectie when i talk about this movie. Yepp very true!
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Post by eausavage on Mar 3, 2011 12:45:55 GMT -5
sometimes actors even if skilled cannot fill the lack of bad screenplay....
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Post by mermon on Mar 5, 2011 6:54:42 GMT -5
I don't understand what you don't like in that screenplay. In My Opinion it's made very well, witty, funny, the story floats very smooth and fast. I was not bored not even for a while. All characters had their chance to show themselves, having good dialogues. It's made for an adventure movie, based on video game - it's not a drama where screenplay should be ambitious. It's very entertaining. I watched it many times and I like it the same. It's not easy. Because, once we know the story and the ending - it could be boring to watch it more times, but POP it's not a case. Even if I know the lines almost by heart, it has the same charm on me. Of course it's a matter of taste, not to be judged. I'm just very glad I like it. It brought a lot of joy in my life. Watching that movie I "suspended disbelief", going straight into the story, not questioning if it's possible or not.
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Post by eausavage on Mar 5, 2011 8:49:25 GMT -5
Honestly, the screeplay could be better, and the movie itself would be better.... I don't kie the screenplay, less action scenes, and more dialogues, as well as interesting and more deep gagas between characters wouldn't hurt, i know that POP is juts a family movie, but it coudl be done a bit better, as it is is not bad, but have potencial that producers and director didn't take care to enahnced... none of charatcres honeslty are well painted, just the evil huncle is interesting, even Dastan in some scenes i really didn't get why and what he acted in a way instead of another, Tamina is really the classic stereotypied female character, very irritating, end end in hersefl, she lied and hide several informations about teh dagger to Dastan... she simply takes advange from Dastan as she can, i don't like her at all.... I don't see that much funny either, sorry... Of couse you don't mean to judge me but you still asking me some explanations, i've already stating as fair as i can, and in the most objective wasy what i think about this movei, so in my POV it's useless to poking me about, as my opinion wouldn't change.... ;D
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Post by mermon on Mar 5, 2011 14:32:18 GMT -5
I didn't ask you for explanation. It's your opinion, Maria. I don't want to change it, I just told you, but not only you, why I like it. What I feel about it. I've just said I don't understand why you don't like a screenplay, which I still don't. Even if you explained it to me, I still don't get it, cause I simply like it. But that's fine. I repeat one more time, in subjects we disagree (not you and me, but all of us) we don't press to change someone's mind, we just discuss, giving to the rest our points of view. Cause the subject - Jake and his movies - is hot, discussion is hot sometimes. It's not pressing or pushing, it's just talking. If you feel like you said everything about something, don't feel an urge to answer again, unless you just want to. - I had never intention to poke you or change your opinion. I have no idea why you took it that way. Maybe that's some international difference in communication. ;D What else I could do, just didn't answer at all. I think that is no point to answer only if we have the same opinion.
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Post by eausavage on Mar 5, 2011 18:23:16 GMT -5
honestly Mermon sometimes it's hard as well for me to chatting with you, i take in that way as we have to going on several times debating on the same point, different opinion, simply, i know that you liked POP, i didn't mean to going on you, i simply stated that coudl be a bit good, if the screenplay different, simply i post as you've referred to me, not sure if i get wrong, then i reply, i don't see how we can consider actually that is a good screeplay, the dialogue are end in themself, stupid humor end in itselft as well, maybe a moment before you laught, and then a moment after you cryed, it's too fast, and the chracters aren't that mych understandable....but fine i got your point.. Surely it's some difference comnication, my english is surely much more cheap than that of anyone else here As you suggested me i'm quitting the discussion, have fun and enjoy ;D
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Post by els on Mar 5, 2011 18:55:31 GMT -5
Well girls, you know what they say "There is no accounting for tastes" I think what Maria is trying to say that in her opinion, if the screenplay would've been better, it could've really lifted PoP to a higher level, which would've been very nice and made the movie more interesting. She's not saying the movie itself is bad, it's just that in her opinion, the screenplay could've been better... Movies like PoP are not usually my thing, but to my surprise I liked PoP I thought it was really entertaining, which it's meant to be, so imo the movie achieved its aim I share Maria's opinion that the screenplay could've been better, it would've made the movie more interesting at a higher level; however I don't really mind that the screenplay wasn't that profound, because the main goal of this movie imo is to entertain, and like I said, imo the movie achieved its aim
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Post by mermon on Mar 6, 2011 4:41:50 GMT -5
I think it's not only a matter of taste, but also how much the story reaches us. POP story, actors, music, scenography and everything reached me so much that I simply didn't think about judging or analysing deeply, I was just in that place and time with those people and their adventures. Maybe that's why I didn't see any weak points in the story. I think there are the movies when I feel like outside, observing the story, how a movie was made up and played. And there are the movies when I am inside of it, not thinking about anything else than the story. POP is like that for me. I didn't know anything about it before, I didn't know Jake, I didn't see promotion and maybe it was also the reason. Because with LAOD it was different. I knew too much about the story, actors, I knew clips, trailers, so watching the movie was different. I heard so much about it in promotion time and from reviews that I had a lot of expectations. I think is better to know less than too much. Sometimes wanting to sell the movie they just say and show too much about it.
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Post by els on Mar 6, 2011 7:04:10 GMT -5
I think you 've got a good point there, Mermon. I think it's not only a matter of not knowing anything about a movie before you see it, but also a matter of what you personally expect from a movie, which things are important for you when you see a movie For me personally, my expectations from a movie and screenplay are a bit different when I see a romcom-drama like LOAD than when I see PoP. With the first, I'd like to see a very interesting, profound screenplay, but with the second one I'm expecting an interesting, entertaining movie, and if the screenplay isn't that profound, I don't mind really (I wouldn't mind a more profound screenplay either, of course, but to me in PoP it isn't my most important expectation)
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