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Post by eausavage on Dec 28, 2010 12:19:26 GMT -5
I do believe that both of you are a hudge fan of Brokeback Mountain and Heath Ledger, me not, i simply don't see in any way his talent, and simply BBM was filming 5 years ago, surely is reductive to Gyllenhaal to still realted him to this movie, just my tow.
Well surely it's not my business, and i don't see why you take it personally, i just spoke frankly, open a thead where everyone that could find BBM and relatives articles about that movie intesting, and where could share opinions, simply here i found a bit off.... Monica it could be great and i will appreciate it, if you could post the entire article, not just a part of the article where Gyllenhaal spoke on Williams.
There's no kind of connection anymore that still runs between Williams and Gyllenhaal, all that was beteween all of actors casted for the movie was over when the BBM promotions ends. I'd agree with you that was an important artistic experience, but nothing more then this. Again just my tow
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Post by book on Dec 28, 2010 12:23:49 GMT -5
there is a connection maria jake is matildas god father and he and michelle are friends
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Post by eausavage on Dec 28, 2010 12:36:39 GMT -5
Mary sorry to be too much sincere, but i've already know sicne 3 years this stuff of Gyllenhaal as Matilda's godfather, is something that frequently happens in jet set and between colleagues, that's dosen't mean that Gyllenhaal have a connection that is still alive with Williams and her diughter too.Just to pointed out, i know Gyllenhaal since 2006, as i've went in theatre to see BBM.So i'm a Gyllenhaal fna since 4 years now. I'm simply skeptical about this, paps never caught Gyllenhaal, since Ledger dead, with Matilda, so is farily to think that Gyllenhaal never attended both Williams and her daughter since 2006, when BBM promotion ends. I really do not wish to minimize the imporat artistic experience of BBM, but to belive that there's more then just friendly acquaintance beteween Gyllenhaal and Williams imo it's a bit off, is simply what i think, i could quietely handle that someone esle have a different opinion then mine.Everyone have the right to have it's own personal opinion.
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Post by book on Dec 28, 2010 12:40:44 GMT -5
their have been pictures and tweets of michelle and jake together and jake has said in several interviews that he and michelle are good friends and see each other when they can
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Post by eausavage on Dec 28, 2010 12:59:08 GMT -5
Well if there's pics surely there's something among us, buy honestly i don't give much importance to this friendly acquaintance...
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Post by monicabbm on Dec 28, 2010 16:18:01 GMT -5
You think I posted it here only because I'm a fan of Brokeback Mountain and Heath Ledger? Are you kidding? I posted because it is something related to jake. Something he said.
The only person who should say whether I should post this in another thread is stephanie.
If you want to close your eyes to everything that Jake has been talking over the years and especially this year about the friendship he has with Michelle and Heath, that is with you. But I believe in what he said and believe he really is the godfather of Matilda. Jake is a serious person, he would not joke about that.
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Post by eausavage on Dec 28, 2010 17:54:03 GMT -5
You think I posted it here only because I'm a fan of Brokeback Mountain and Heath Ledger? Are you kidding? I posted because it is something related to jake. Something he said. The only person who should say whether I should post this in another thread is stephanie. If you want to close your eyes to everything that Jake has been talking over the years and especially this year about the friendship he has with Michelle and Heath, that is with you. But I believe in what he said and believe he really is the godfather of Matilda. Jake is a serious person, he would not joke about that. I seriously think that's the only reason, i've read so often that you referrend as the most amazing performance of Gyllenhaal, his acting in BBM. I have my eyes wide open, and i don't see nothing that we call friendship between Ledger, Williams and Gyllenhaal, he never attended even at Ledger's funeral, if he was so intimate surely Ledger's parents would invited him, at it wasen't so, since 3 years i haven't seen Gyllenhaal with Matilda or Williams, simply Gyllenhaal in this article was fair with a colleague, i've heard same praise form him related to Hathaway, or Paltrow, or Portman too. I read allway this riddle of the godfather, simply was a fair motion from Ledger's side, that's all, from my point of view. It's fine if your opinion is different, then its up to other to accept different and much more skeptical opinion about the "friendship" affair, at least i could call friendly friendly acquaintance. I found this such naif to talk about the private side of Williams to then skip on Ledger...it's stuff from 5 yeas old, i'm such bored... I simply stated what i think honestly, even if i was a bit harsh, i do believe that the full article was more interesting then just Gyllenhaal statement about Williams, nothing such new in the end, among colleagues it's quite common. Sure just Mod and Admin can tell where you can post or not, not my intention to tell you where to post, but i have the right to simply share my opinion about that so called news, and to me isn't ineresting at all.Gyllenhaal and his project caught all my attention, i leave all the rest behind.Just my two, and if i've hurted someone i opologies.
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Post by Sasha4Jake on Dec 28, 2010 18:02:13 GMT -5
Me personally I haven't seen BBM yet and (for very personal reasons) will not see it in the very near future. So it's safe to say that I am no BBM fan.
But I guess it is safe to say that - wheter you like it or not - BBM is Jake's Titanic. Let me explain that: no matter how many movies Leo DiCaprio has done since (and that's even 10+ yrs ago) - Titanic's the one people mention when it comes to important milestones in his carrer. And while I believe that both Jake and Leo have come long ways since Titanic / BBM I guess none of them would have had the chances they had if it were not for that movie.
BTW - Jake and Anne made a lot of references to BBM themselves and to me it felt like something from back then was still there.
And as for Matilda. In one of the recent interview (I don't remember which one) Jake said that he enjoyed spending time with the kids (he spoke of more than one) already in his life while he waited for his own. Since his sister only has one child I guess it's pretty obvious he ment Matilda by this as well.
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Post by book on Dec 28, 2010 18:17:56 GMT -5
jake still talks alot about BBM hes says that it will always be very important to him and yes he has mentioned several times about spending time with matilda
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Post by monicabbm on Dec 28, 2010 18:30:28 GMT -5
I seriously think that's the only reason, i've read so often that you referrend as the most amazing performance of Gyllenhaal, his acting in BBM.
You think I'm just like Jake because of Brokeback Mountain?
As you know he did not attend his funeral? He told Ted and Lisa that he was at the funeral of LA. You read his meeting with Ted and Lisa? There he speaks openly about Heath and Michelle.
He was not at the funeral of Australia, but that does not mean it was because he was not invited. I do not know why, but I respect his actions.
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Post by eausavage on Dec 28, 2010 18:41:27 GMT -5
honestly BBM is a good movie, it's upsetting me a bit that now it turns like i dislke the movie, i've just stated that Gyllehaal have really a lot stll to shown and a lot of movie to filming, so it's too soon to stated was his best acting, maybe actually, but in Jarhead Gyllenhaal is far away better, but it's just my opinion, you have yours, simply. I didn't say that BBM was a poor cheap movie Sasha, i pointed out that share some artistic experience between collegues is quite important and mean a lot, but that's dosen't mean at all frendship sorry. About Leonardo DiCaprio Titanic was one of his worst movie, he was a giant in the aviator, shutter island, and Gangs of NY. About Matilda, i never heard Gyllenhaal speack her name direclty, he can reffering easily just to some other frineds' childs, who's knows?I'm just skeptic I'm very very tired of eating this soup of BBM+Ledger+Williams+Matilda+friendship, i really didn't see the point in still dabating on, since Ledger died i'm fed up, Gyllenhaal isn't juts BBM or his frienship with Ledger, or the godfather of Matilda. Simply this article isn't important in my point of view, i mean Gyllenhaal spoke in fair and excellet way about Michelle Williams, so? IMO it's a no sense...
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Post by eausavage on Dec 28, 2010 19:00:58 GMT -5
I seriously think that's the only reason, i've read so often that you referrend as the most amazing performance of Gyllenhaal, his acting in BBM.You think I'm just like Jake because of Brokeback Mountain? As you know he did not attend his funeral? He told Ted and Lisa that he was at the funeral of LA. You read his meeting with Ted and Lisa? There he speaks openly about Heath and Michelle. He was not at the funeral of Australia, but that does not mean it was because he was not invited. I do not know why, but I respect his actions. Monica i think this just cause you're referring like the best acting of Gyllenhaal was in BBM. Ted, Lisa who are?Sorry i'm not used to speak people's first name if don't know personally... I really don't know too much about this meeting in LA as nor wiki, nor blog speak about that... I'm sure Gyllenhaal wasen't invited as the Ledger family make a public statemet about the funeral invitation, where they told clear that Williams and the last patner of Ledger, i don't remember her name sorry, was the only Hollywood' folks attened to funeral. We can fairly belive that Gyllenhaal wasen't invited at Ledger's funeral, as his parents never mention him directly as close friend of their son.... You see we're still stuck talking about this details, that to me aren't important... But then again, see in my point of view please, i don't wish to querelling, or dabating, i don't like to acting like this,as polemic and unfair lady, as i'm not, i'm honest to the bone how this could be helpful to Gyllenhaal's fan only? To me, personally this aren't vital info, that's all, and i said all i guess so i'm stop posting, as i don't wish to fight or querelling, or something like this. To me it's also fine is we have different opinion.
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Post by monicabbm on Dec 28, 2010 19:16:20 GMT -5
How is not important? Those are his words.
Jake is a great actor. He gave us great performances in October Sky, Donnie Darko, The Good Girl, Jarhead ... but BBM still remains his best performance for me. Unfortunately I have not seen laod.
I want him to give us a bigger permormance than BBM? Sure. This is one of the things I most want to see and obviously he has the potential to do so. He just needs to find the right role.
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Post by eausavage on Dec 28, 2010 19:27:36 GMT -5
How is not important? Those are his words. Jake is a great actor. He gave us great performances in October Sky, Donnie Darko, The Good Girl, Jarhead ... but BBM still remains his best performance for me. Unfortunately I have not seen laod. I want him to give us a bigger permormance than BBM? Sure. This is one of the things I most want to see and obviously he has the potential to do so. He just needs to find the right role. I just look at his movie, i don't care too much about his statement unlsess are about himself, it's dangerous take all the statems of an actor too much seriously... I see we think the same on Gyllenhaal career, IMO his best performance is JarHead, he deserve to reach oscar for that role, you think different then me and it's fine. I second your thoughts about choosing the right role, i remember we share the same opinion about movie like "New year's eve". All we ahve to do is see what's aorund the Gyllenhaal's corner, hoping for he'll pick up the best movie for him and his career.
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Post by xxmariexx on Dec 28, 2010 19:46:53 GMT -5
Thank you monica for posting. It's a very nice quote from Jake. I love reading what he has to say about others, and vis versa. I thinks its sweet that he admires Michelle's work and thinks highly of her as a person. I am very interested in seeing Blue Valentine. I must admit that I sometimes have mixed feelings regarding Williams, but I do think she is lovely and talented, and I am very glad that Jake is close to her and Matilda. Don't feel bad about posting the quote, it is a nice piece of Jake news.I think he and Michelle knew each other long before BBM. Eausavage: I am not sure why you do not believe Jake's relationship with Ledger/Williams/Matilda, but I respect your opinion. I also do not think that talking about BBM in any way diminishes Jake's career. Like MJG said, every actor/actress is sort of known for a particular role, and BBM just happens to be Jake's. As to date it is his most acclaimed performance, really skyrocketing him to A List stardom, and is also the most acclaimed film he's ever starred in. To many of us it is a very special performance, and BBM has changed many lives. It is my fav Jake performance, however, I still love his other work, and of course the man himself. Jake himself even brings up Heath a lot, as well as BBM, and how it was a different and memorable experience for him. And naturally it is going to be brought up while promoting LAOD because of his past with Anne. Anyway, it's just a big film in Jake's career. And I hope to see him top it in the future. ;D
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