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Post by mermon on Apr 20, 2012 14:30:18 GMT -5
I'm joining the club of happy Gyllenhaalics! Congrats Jake! I have no doubts he will be great. And fulfilled as an actor. Too bad, it's not a chance for all of us to see it. We count on you girls, who will be able to see it. What is all about? sources:http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2009/oct/25/if-there-is-i-havent, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_There_Is_I_Haven%27t_Found_It_Yet,
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Post by likemonalisa on Apr 21, 2012 4:56:10 GMT -5
This is very good news! I'm excited to see the play. I cannot wait. And I, too will let you all know about my experience at the show when the time comes. u're sooooooooo seeeeeeeeet ;D
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Post by jfaulkin on Apr 21, 2012 20:49:14 GMT -5
Thanks Marisa...Plz tell us all.
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Post by evie on Apr 29, 2012 9:01:19 GMT -5
I think Jake is now based in NYC mainly and LA is now his secend home and evie please let us us know when you see the play . I will definitely share my experiences with the play. Has anyone read or heard anything more about it? I haven't. Over at Just Jared there's a posting dated April 10, showing 7 or 8 pictures of the family group walking on the street on Easter Sunday: Maggie, Peter, Ramona, Naomi, and Jake. Ramona is such a big girl already, and very beautiful. She has Maggie's dark hair and generally looks like her mother, IMO. Jake shows up in only two photos, but with his back to the camera. I found these pictures by Googling Maggie and looking for news of the baby. The commentary on JJ says Maggie has revealed that the new baby will be a girl, but she won't give her due date. It must be soon--back in November people said Maggie was six months pregnant, but that obviously wasn't right. She looks pretty big in the pictures, so I think the birth ought to come any minute. The JJ page also says Jake was spotted another day on the subway, looking "scruffy" and listening to his iPod. We saw a photo of him on the subway a few weeks ago, and maybe that was the same occasion. But I didn't think he looked scruffy.
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Post by mermon on Apr 30, 2012 14:19:40 GMT -5
- Jake will have an English accent in it! Great!
Following WDW blog:
Last April's day news - Jake is a double uncle already! April 19 Maggie gave birth to Gloria Ray! Congrats to Maggie and Peter and Gyllenhaal's family!
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Post by evie on Apr 30, 2012 20:05:04 GMT -5
- Jake will have an English accent in it! Great! Following WDW blog: Last April's day news - Jake is a double uncle already! April 19 Maggie gave birth to Gloria Ray! Congrats to Maggie and Peter and Gyllenhaal's family! Well! Thanks for all the news, mermon. Great to hear about the baby, but I wonder why I didn't see it anywhere? Where did you find the report? Hope all is well with everyone. That's interesting about the play--again, never heard anything about Jake doing a reading at the Roundabout. It must have been private, invitation-only. Or done for potential backers. I can't share your excitement about Jake using an English accent. In fact, it annoys me. He does this accent well, but I didn't like that he had it in PoP (because it wasn't necessary for the character), and I am disappointed that he would choose to make his stage debut in a play where it is necessary. There are plenty of talented British actors who would fit the role perfectly. IMO, Jake needs to be seen as his unique American self doing what he does so wonderfully, not hiding as a British drifter. I don't see the point of it. Plays by non-American writers set in non-American environments can be changed for American audiences. I wish they would do that. But I'll go see it/him, of course.
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Post by mermon on May 1, 2012 3:21:06 GMT -5
News about Gloria Ray were on Twitter and in media: www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/maggie-gyllenhaal-peter-sarsgaard-welcome-daughter-gloria-ray-2012304#ixzz1tY4iWmSJEvie, I adore Jake's talking British. I loved it in POP. English is not my maternal language, so I probably hear it differently than you do, but from Jake's lips it sounds very attractive to me. I like when he lowers his voice, though I like his own very much as well. I see the purpose for his British accent in POP. All other actors were talking in it. He would sound strange talking differently. He did it so charming IMO. But I know that not all viewers were pleased. About the play. I have no idea, if he would be only one talking British, it would be odd. I think they still didn't cast the rest of actors. I'm sure he will bring many viewers to the theatre. I would see it multiply times myself, if I could. But I got your patriotic point about language. In some way you are right. Who knows if all British aspects will be understandable, like Asda for example. Let's hope, they know what they do.
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Post by evie on May 1, 2012 9:19:58 GMT -5
News about Gloria Ray were on Twitter and in media: www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/maggie-gyllenhaal-peter-sarsgaard-welcome-daughter-gloria-ray-2012304#ixzz1tY4iWmSJEvie, I adore Jake's talking British. I loved it in POP. English is not my maternal language, so I probably hear it differently than you do, but from Jake's lips it sounds very attractive to me. I like when he lowers his voice, though I like his own very much as well. I see the purpose for his British accent in POP. All other actors were talking in it. He would sound strange talking differently. He did it so charming IMO. But I know that not all viewers were pleased. About the play. I have no idea, if he would be only one talking British, it would be odd. I think they still didn't cast the rest of actors. I'm sure he will bring many viewers to the theatre. I would see it multiply times myself, if I could. But I got your patriotic point about language. In some way you are right. Who knows if all British aspects will be understandable, like Asda for example. Let's hope, they know what they do. Thanks again, mermon, for the link. I had expected the baby's arrival to be a bigger item on the Web--and here on IHJ-- but I guess the news will spread eventually. I do think Jake's British accent is fine, though not outstanding, and is always very sexy. The role just seems such an odd choice to me. For one thing, there are probably a dozen British actors who could play the hell out of that part. He will have to prove to the critics that's he's as good as they would be, or better. That's a huge challenge for an actor, and somewhat unfair. Also, I am afraid the critics (and the general public) may pay more attention to Jake's mastery of the accent than to his interpretation of the character. Again, an unfair burden for an actor to carry. What I meant about PoP is that the film didn't have to have a British sound. After all, it takes place in ancient Persia. Gemma Arterton, who played the princess, may not have been able to do an American accent, so they had to match Jake to her, since he could do the Brit. Alfred Molina, a British actor, can do a fine American accent, so he wouldn't have been a problem. Did the rest of the ensemble speak as British? I can't remember. Frankly, if Jerry Bruckheimer, the big-time producer who brought PoP together, had wanted a British flavor to the film, he could have cast any number of British actors in the role Jake played. It's hard to figure out what was going on with this movie It's my belief that in general British actors do American accents better than American actors do British accents. The Americans Gwyneth Paltrow and Meryl Streep do British speech authentically, and Peter Sarsgaard in An Education and Maggie Gyllenhaal in the second Nanny McPhee movie have done a good job with this accent too. American TV is full of Brits and Australians who do perfect American speech--you'd never know these actors weren't native American speakers. I don't feel that it's a patriotism issue for me. I accept whatever works without being a distraction. (A similar kind of distraction occurred in the recent film J. Edgar, in which Leo DiCaprio played the title role. The critics reviewed his age makeup in the movie, not his performance.) Of course, if Jake carries his part off brilliantly, I will be the first to say that all my objections were ridiculous.
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Post by mermon on May 1, 2012 11:17:26 GMT -5
I really enjoy our conversation, Evie! Are you among those who regret that Jake played Dastan maybe? I can't even imagine any other actor, it would be such a waste in Jake's career. I love his Dastan, together with his British accent! I am among those who will never understand why POP was not a blockbuster, as it should be in my opinion. I checked the actors - 8 of main characters are British. Jake and Jerry Bruckheimer - producer are Americans, Gísli Örn Garðarsson, playing Assassin is from Iceland, Director - Mike Newell is British, movie set was partially in UK. So I think British was very natural choice. I think Jake likes to be challenged and was preparing for his character very volunteer. Same story now with British play, he accepted British accent and probably he believes in himself that he's able to do it. I know that critics always seek for something to criticize. - here I agree, they may concentrate on that. But if Jake is not afraid, I am not either. I think it's less risky for him to speak British in an American Theatre than it would be in the British one. For Americans it may be an additional curiosity and stimulus. In the theatre actors usually speak louder, would be easier for Jake to perform in other accent. As I remember, practising for POP he was speaking from across the pool to his English teacher. Let's hope he knows what he wants to do. I'm sure he will have huge fun with that play. And so will the viewers. I envy you much that you will be able to see it. I will gladly read your and others review!
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Post by evie on May 3, 2012 9:42:44 GMT -5
I really enjoy our conversation, Evie! Are you among those who regret that Jake played Dastan maybe? I can't even imagine any other actor, it would be such a waste in Jake's career. I love his Dastan, together with his British accent! I am among those who will never understand why POP was not a blockbuster, as it should be in my opinion. I checked the actors - 8 of main characters are British. Jake and Jerry Bruckheimer - producer are Americans, Gísli Örn Garðarsson, playing Assassin is from Iceland, Director - Mike Newell is British, movie set was partially in UK. So I think British was very natural choice. I think Jake likes to be challenged and was preparing for his character very volunteer. Same story now with British play, he accepted British accent and probably he believes in himself that he's able to do it. I know that critics always seek for something to criticize. - here I agree, they may concentrate on that. But if Jake is not afraid, I am not either. I think it's less risky for him to speak British in an American Theatre than it would be in the British one. For Americans it may be an additional curiosity and stimulus. In the theatre actors usually speak louder, would be easier for Jake to perform in other accent. As I remember, practising for POP he was speaking from across the pool to his English teacher. Let's hope he knows what he wants to do. I'm sure he will have huge fun with that play. And so will the viewers. I envy you much that you will be able to see it. I will gladly read your and others review! I have been enjoying our conversation, too, mermon! Thanks for your thoughtful replies. You make an excellent point about less risk for Jake to speak British in an American theater than in a British one. Most American ears (probably including mine) are not as well tuned to an authentic British accent as the Brits themselves would be. Hence, we would be less critical and much more accepting of what we heard. And, in fact, Jake has already practiced the accent with professional coaches. Besides that, he is a skillful mimic and does imitations of other peoples' speech really well. You are right: he will enjoy himself. I have no doubt he will work very hard and give it every ounce of his talent and effort. Thanks also for the information on the PoP cast. I didn't know that it was so thoroughly British. It makes more sense to me now that Jake would have to fit in with the rest of them. PoP was a disappointment at the box office, but I don't think it lost money on a worldwide basis. The producers had hoped to make the character of the prince a franchise, that is, to do one or more sequels about him, the way others have done with Indiana Jones, Batman, Iron Man, Jason Bourne, etc. I always imagine Jake being terribly embarrassed that all his hard work and dreams didn't pay off. I enjoyed the film, and even saw it twice in the theater. My biggest criticism of it goes to the script itself: the story seemed old-fashioned to me, and the notion of the dagger of time kind of silly. Time travel and manipulation has been done many times in movies, and for me it wasn't exciting enough or different enough in PoP. This film was heavily promoted for a full year. As that went on it occurred to me the producers must have sensed that their film wasn't likely to get critical raves. I thought they nearly killed Jake with all the intense press appearances and interviews he had to do around the world.
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Post by mermon on May 4, 2012 13:58:00 GMT -5
I discovered Jake when POP showed up. Didn't know him before. So I missed all the promotion of the movie. I watched all the interviews after seeing the movie, just to get to know Jake better. I think movie may be killed a bit by over-promotion. I had that feeling with LAOD. I mean, interviews were great, but they revealed too much of plot. Same on questions asked hundreds of times. I don't know why they did POP promotion so intensely. Probably wanted to be sure people will watch it. I think it was revealed that Nizam was a bad guy. i didn't know it and purely enjoyed discovering it in the movie. I think there are so many movies release each year in USA, they have to be promoted to exist in peoples minds. About POP plot - I watched it like a child, sucked by the story totally, loved everything about it. Probably it was Jake's merit, but I liked all the characters, humour, Dastan&Tamina's chemistry, music, everything. So it's a matter of taste, I guess.
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